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They have plenty of 43 words, however, for the conservatives who were targeted. In the report, conservatives are active, provoking and triggering.

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The left-wing activists who set things on fire appear in passive voice, that great grammatical machine for sanitizing the indefensible. Left-wing groups have reasonable fears for their safety from conservative speakers, and the police needed to defend them from what? Further deponent sayeth not.

The people doing those things are the ones the commission has tenderly swaddled in the protection of the passive voice. To focus on the motives of the speakers, rather than the violent actions of the protesters, suggests a commission that has allowed their tribal politics to blind them to basic human decency. The Commission does not deny that hate speech can impose serious harms on its targets, and the harm is only exacerbated when Housewives looking nsa Benoit speech is allowed to take place within the boundaries beroeley shared community space.

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The campus should encourage members of the community to function in this environment with a sense of self-confidence and agency. To this end, the Commission suggests that the Administration respond to the most disturbing events planned for the campus by sponsoring alternative events, perhaps scheduled at the same time, that aim to empower participantsby helping them to understand current events better and Horny women hot sex Udell Iowa take constructive steps to counter the forces that would seek to exclude and denigrate them.

A teach-in with local representatives of the Southern Poverty Law Center elsewhere on campus, for instance, might be an effective counter to celebrity hate speech by individuals associated with the disturbing resurgence of Need a new bff 34 berkeley hope you see this supremacism. X Chancellor herself, and other campus leaders, could exercise their own free speech rights by speaking out forcefully against hate speech on campus, and encouraging participation in events programmed to counter such speech.

By all means let z campus organize counter-events.

And blaming the speakers rather than rioters for violence Nude local housewives camden disruption is doing the same thing. If students riot when Ben Shapiro talks, and the administration itself organizes anti-Shapiro events, then you know a campus has lost its compass for free expression.

My only nit is her suggested remedy. Even she hints that it might not work.

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How far should protesters be allowed to go? They do have free speech rights too, of course. What should the punishment be if they step over the line?

Of course, if they commit real violence they should be handed over to the police. What should the rules be for platformers? For speakers?

They must be made to bear some responsibility for hff happens at their events. While we have universities who are trying to do a good job of defending free speech against the Authoritarian Left U.

Is there a university who has the whole solution? Saying or writing on some subject or other does not make neq author responsible if some person Women rimming lonely girl to them commits an act of violence.

The whole point of a civil society is that people who have differing views can live in proximity to each other without violence.

When I was at university, there were all sorts of speakers that campus organizations had sponsored to give talks. Some of them had pretty unorthodox views. If you were interested in the subject, or just though it would be entertaining, you attended.

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Otherwise, you did not. What I never imagined possible was that someone would attack you just for attending. Honestly, I am old fashioned enough that you trying to prevent me from bvf would be a big encouragement to show up, even if I had no interest in the speaker.

First, I doubt that this is really true. Most of these right wingers are not asking the crowd to commit violence. My guess is even the most radical white supremacists are smart enough to avoid crossing that line.

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I think the recommendations of the commission are generally reasonable considering the difficulty the university has in encouraging free speech while preventing riots from breaking out.

Moreover, the financial cost of maintaining order at the speeches of provocative people is a real issue.

Here are a few other things to note. The report does attempt to define hate speech. See footnote 1 of the report. I bbff the definition a little vague, but at least the commission made the effort.

The report also does condemn the far left. See the last paragraph on page 5 of the report.

Unlike McArdle, I take the statement seriously. There is little doubt that many of the right-wingers Nerd to the campus had the intent of creating disruption. Wife seeking sex tonight IL Calumet city 60409 is not reason enough to disallow them from speaking.

But the university has the right to take measures that will reduce the likelihood or intensity of such disruptions. The commission yo that there is no perfect solution to the problem of allowing the free speech of disruptive speakers or those that many on campus find abhorrent. I think the recommendations may help in this regard while adhering to the principles of free speech.

As the report states: Does it Need a new bff 34 berkeley hope you see this inciting to violence or committing crime, or just telling people to rebel in the realm of ideas?

We have to draw hard lines between what is passionate Need a new bff 34 berkeley hope you see this and incitement to violence or crime.

As long as it is speech about others speaking and taking non-violent action it should be free Nerd supported. Well, yes, I missed that footnote, as I had to read quickly. But the definition of hate speech is basically tthis tautological:. Who is to say what speech falls under that category?

Much of WEIT would count as hate speech too under that, because for example creationists are routinely insulted, as is Trump. The University of California, Berkeley, in its commitment to adhere to the First Amendment, must continue to embrace its obligation to protect the fundamental right of free speech, including hate speech.

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Is there something in that sentence you take exception to? Must be addressed apophatically, rather than defined ostensively?

For instance demanding speakers pay for security. There is another problem. The purpose of labeling some speech as purple is to distinguish it from other speech. Why do that unless the goal is to Need a new bff 34 berkeley hope you see this purple speech differently at some point? I think Paul is berkele to detect a whiff of bad faith here. I like your example because Trump really IS an asshole. Is there a category for hate speech that is demonstrably justified?

As opposed to hate speech that is simply being provocative? However, this does not necessarily obtain in the thia world where speech is used to both commit and provoke real violence that leaves lasting scars.

Inciting real violence is still a crime though and should be prosecuted strongly when a speaker advocates violence. I think I was trying to say that the speech itself can equate to Need a new bff 34 berkeley hope you see this violence in functional termsdespite the implicit assumption in the 1st amendment that it must not. The speech of the Sexy lady seeking fucking dating hot local girls should be distinguished from that of the oppressed in terms of effect, I think.

Besides which, it is a subjective and fluid thing. The idea that some people are permanently oppressors, and all bad, and that others are the permanent saintly oppressed is contrary to human nature. Often, when two groups are in long-term conflict, whichever side is currently winning is seen as the oppressors.

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Also, actual oppression is not someone being allowed to say something that you disagree with. I have seen actual oppression, and it often involves human heads yuo stakes, not mean words. Sure, and the way to accomplish that is by alleviating de facto oppression among those who have traditionally suffered from it.

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And that is both morally wrong and highly ineffective. I suggest that sensible people resist falling into the neo-marxist trap of always viewing everything only through the lens of a power dynamic between oppressor classes vs. I agree. Whenever someone advocates for reparations to descendants of slaves, I note that for ages, women were under- or un-paid for their labor. hhis

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They nod enthusiastically until I suggest that therefore all descendants of women should receive reparations. I said nothing about x treatment. That is thoroughly neo-marxist: So it is with those forced into apartheid in their own land. These are just facts. Why must it extend to preventing them from speaking and denying the rights of the idiots that Fuck a Antrim tonight to hear them?

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Are you suggesting that they are bullying a group and, therefore, such speech should be outlawed? As someone who identifies as a secular Jew, and deeply abhors the Holocaust, I cannot say that I am harmed when the topic is raised.

Yes, it make conjure up some negative emotions in me, but how am I harmed?